In this episode we discuss: mezzanines, every job at Printed Matter, C. S. Lewis, the NY Art Book Fair, Hamburger Eyes, Powerhouse Books, Jamel Shabazz, LL Cool J, his conservative parents letting him get drums as a kid, heavy metal album art, the flattening of culture, Martha Cooper, the Dewey Decimal System, Julie Wolfe, best sellers, Climax Books, and Troll Dolls.